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Seven Heavens => Aaru - Romhacking & Translation => Topic started by: Chibi Kami on January 08, 2008, 09:53:32 PM



Title: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Chibi Kami on January 08, 2008, 09:53:32 PM
It's been quite some time since SRWa was announced with a 90% completed script accompanying it. In addition, it's been quite some time since we all saw the video of aG's new title screen and hacked demo sequence.

Has a problem arisen with script translation and/or insertion, or are other projects in the way?

I'm aware of Lord of Elemental's prominence in what counts as recent history, as well as a basic law of building anticipation in a series being to start with the more dated projects, but when something is ready, it's ready.

I now submit myself for merciless namecalling.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Sume Gai on January 08, 2008, 10:13:14 PM
Technically speaking you are safe (unless I missed something neither is on the front page)

And I'm sure most of us would like to know as well.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: TCM on January 08, 2008, 11:03:26 PM
Obviously, Gid is taking the extra time to up graphics up to @3 levels, add in every mecha series ever created (including American releases), and create a second mode where you play ZoE styles as any mech with any pilot.


Because I believe that Gid is just that awesome.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Dsvaun on January 08, 2008, 11:14:30 PM
...Or he is finishing up Live-A-Live 2.0 and trying to work out the bugs on SRW Gaiden.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Sume Gai on January 09, 2008, 12:13:05 AM
In all seriousness Gideon is probably working on Live-a-Live and/or SRW Gaiden

just a guess


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: JayBee on January 09, 2008, 02:40:46 AM
He secretly picked up Samurai Shodown RPG and has devoted all his spare time to that!


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Tyria on January 09, 2008, 07:52:45 AM
Hmn...last tiem I bugged him for scripts for @2 and @3 (among other things), I can play and finish them on emulator so I can work on them now, he said that Masoukishin will be focused, but also 4 and EX scripts are beign reviwed.
Gods know when @ and @g will be seriously worked on for release, probably after the snes ones are finished.
Also, @'s scripts were fully translated EXCEPT the battle texts (I really suck at them and he didn't give me them either), and also there were some missing texts that Lakmir didn't rip out when I translated at least.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Sakura77 on January 10, 2008, 04:03:51 PM
well when I asked him about Masoukishin, he said that after that he work on 4 and EX before any other SRTs


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Dsvaun on January 13, 2008, 02:19:25 AM
Out of curiosity, how long did it take to translate the scripts for @ and @gaidan?


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Tyria on January 13, 2008, 05:18:56 AM
I am not sure about @g, I didn't work on it (and I think it is still on translation), but on @, I took a bit less than 1 year, and that was with planty of time wasted (I think the project was cursed), as there were 2 months I didn't have the time to work on it and when I finally could, my motherboard burned up, so that made more 2 months that I wasn't able to work on it.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Armetius on March 12, 2008, 02:55:22 PM
Hmn...last tiem I bugged him for scripts for @2 and @3 (among other things), I can play and finish them on emulator so I can work on them now, he said that Masoukishin will be focused, but also 4 and EX scripts are beign reviwed.
Gods know when @ and @g will be seriously worked on for release, probably after the snes ones are finished.
Also, @'s scripts were fully translated EXCEPT the battle texts (I really suck at them and he didn't give me them either), and also there were some missing texts that Lakmir didn't rip out when I translated at least.

I wouldn't worry too much about @2's script since it seems that a measurable portion of it has shown up translated (and quite well translated) on Gamefaqs, though I imagine that there's still much that hasn't been translated. I will salute you for attempting to translate @3 as that looks humanly impossible.

I also can't help but wonder if Gid needs to finish EX since Studiollama is currently working on the PSX version (though Gid is probably far ahead of them).


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Sakura77 on March 12, 2008, 02:59:31 PM
Gid to my knowledge is not the type to leave something partially finished even if someone else doing relatively the same thing. the PSX version probably has some things that the original doesn't have so he most likely will finish EX for the SNES.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: gamerk2 on March 17, 2008, 02:32:31 AM
Personally, i would prefer the origonal run (SRW 2, 3, EX, 4, LoE) gets finished first, but any release would be welcome.
The scary thing is we could see 3 or 4 of those done within the year (knocks on wood :D )

I guess this means we have to start talking about OGs and OGG now?


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: SpaceDrake on May 07, 2008, 10:58:37 PM
For my own part, I'd rather like to see the Alpha games translated prior to 4 and EX. SRWG can't come soon enough since it plays so differently to every other SRW game (and it finally explains Masaki's backstory so it's of interest for anyone into the OG games), but, well... Alpha and Alpha Gaiden are flat-out better games than 4 and EX. That's the entire point of the Alpha games; they were meant to substantially improve on every aspect of SRW compared to the original series. I don't have a ton of interest in the earlier games simply because I know the Alpha series is quantifiably a better play experience.

I'd also welcome any release, but I really would rather see the emphasis be placed on Gaiden and the Alpha games.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Onmi on May 08, 2008, 02:15:13 AM
I want to personally see them done in this order

Gaiden (Finally FINALLY, Masaki Andoh can have his full story, which works in every game he's in, told to us in english, sides it looks badass)
Alpha (Seem's very interesting, loads of fun)
Alpha Gaiden (Considered perfect by people, i wanna see the fuss)
Ex (Andoh)
4 (since it became Non-Canon compared to F and F Final, i dont care for it to much)

but thats just me, i'm a patient man, i'm still waiting for my Wii Birthday present to get in, my birthday was in September... last year... my patience is high


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Gideon Zhi on May 08, 2008, 08:39:02 AM
Here's the deal. Tyria is a machine - even moreso than I am. I'm not complaining, he does great work at high speeds, but it all needs to be edited and now that I'm working 40 hours per week, I just don't have quite the steam I used to. I'm taking steps to fix this on a number of fronts, and I've outsourced several of my scripts to editors, but the fact remains that Alpha's is seven *megabytes* and even with a good editor will not be ready anytime in the immediate future.

You're much more likely to see some combination of EX, 4, and Gaiden this year, though again I can't even promise one of those.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Tyria on May 08, 2008, 08:08:30 PM
Hmn...that game script on gamefaqs...you mean the one on Zengar's path, right?
For what I could see in one play and half, at best, that script represents 45% of the total mission-related text, since while several missions LOOK the same, their text content isn't much alike between each other.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: SpaceDrake on May 08, 2008, 10:34:28 PM
Here's the deal. Tyria is a machine - even moreso than I am. I'm not complaining, he does great work at high speeds, but it all needs to be edited and now that I'm working 40 hours per week, I just don't have quite the steam I used to. I'm taking steps to fix this on a number of fronts, and I've outsourced several of my scripts to editors, but the fact remains that Alpha's is seven *megabytes* and even with a good editor will not be ready anytime in the immediate future.

Well, hell, Gideon, if editing is a problem what do you need for credentials? I've got a good bit of English experience, and I'd be happy to edit for you as I have a good chunk of free time.

A bit out of the blue I know, but if "script preparation" is the main hurdle, there are folks here and elsewhere on the Inter Nets who are quite capable of helping with that.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Gideon Zhi on May 08, 2008, 11:13:22 PM
So-called "preparation" is the big hurdle with Mystic Ark. The problem with *that* is that said preparation is complicated and requires in-depth romhacking knowledge. Hell, most things require that :/


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Onmi on May 08, 2008, 11:45:53 PM
if it's making a script translated into english into understandable english and edited to be comprehensable, i can do that, although ironicly i cant edit my own work to save my life (i'm a writter, we suck at editing our own stuff), also i have about 2 or 3 editors myself who correct my own work, im not asking for an advanced script or patch or anything, but if it's making it comprehensable i can help with that.

i'm not sure though if you mean preparing it in the format to be added to the patch, or just as a script, the latter i can help out with if you want it


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: prince2phore on May 09, 2008, 05:55:22 AM
The only fact taht we get a direct answer from Gid made my day.
I'll wait the time it'll take as long as I know you're still working on it.
so glad there are people like you in this universe.

many thx.


Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Onmi on May 09, 2008, 07:03:37 AM
I dont blame him for the time it's taking, it's a bgi game, the only way it could be sped up is if you had 67 people translating a chapter each, then theres the variable text, and the split routes, a full translation team would equal the hundreds i believe, then a hacking team, with the hacking taking any amount of time, possibly extremely difficult, then theres fitting in proper names and possibly expanding the AKA field (i dont know where i heard that)

not to mention battle quotes and consistences with @G, then he's got Gaiden, 4 and Ex to do, not to mention his OTHER projects.

I wanna help how i can, i asked one of my editors and he's mehing on it, another is okay with it (just needs a time period) so honestly, as said before, if it's editing i'm willing to help out, also i'm pretty sure every guy on SoS would be willing to help with the FE3 stuff (FE fan)



Title: Re: I know it's taboo, but... SRWa and aG?
Post by: Sume Gai on May 09, 2008, 07:13:23 AM
I'm sure if it was simply editors they wouldn't be very difficult to find

but I'm sure he wants proof of the quality of one's work and to know you have a good working knowledge of the content.

also there is something to be said about constancy  (fewer editors = greater consistency)

I'd love to help but doubt I'd be able to do so (with zero romhacking or translation skills)