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Title: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: LeftyMagman on March 31, 2008, 04:22:44 PM
I am having problems running La-Mulana on Windows Vista. The game works fine, but for some reason it doesn't display text on the tablets, skeletons, and on the MSX title page. The thing that perplexes me though is that it's not the patch. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, how can I fix it?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Chibi Kami on April 01, 2008, 01:28:37 PM
1: Vista is Satan's gift to computers. Revert to XP.

2: Right-click the exe or shortcut to the exe, and select properties. Search through it and tell it to either run as administrator, run in compatibility mode for XP or lower, or some combination of the two. I cannot give you a definite fix because I'm not about to upgrade to Vista. (the solutions come from attempts to fix my uncle's EverQuest account. He had the latest expansion areas, but couldn't access them in Vista without running as admin)


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: LeftyMagman on April 01, 2008, 03:02:56 PM
Something I've found with Vista is that the compatibility doesn't really work. Thank's anyway.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: LeftyMagman on April 02, 2008, 02:33:37 PM
Anybody else have some ideas?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Zaratus on April 02, 2008, 11:53:20 PM
Hmm, La Mulana works mostly fine for me on Vista.  At least, I haven't tested it out fully, but most things are fine. 

The only issue I have with it, is that only one of the music settings works (the chiptune-sounding one).  The other audio option, all I get is the percussion sounding err, sounds. 

The only settings I have on it are to run in compatibility mode for XP SP 2. 


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: LeftyMagman on April 03, 2008, 03:37:50 PM
What version of Vista were you using?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Zaratus on April 04, 2008, 12:08:54 AM
System properties say Windows Vista Home Premium.

32-bit. 

Here's some other specs, though for a game like La-Mulana, don't think it's overly relevant.  ~2.16 GHz Dual Core, 2 GB ram.  NVIDIA GeForce video card, though I forget the exact specs on it, and I'm too lazy to double-check at the moment .=P 

It's a laptop if that matters at all. 


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Aquillion on April 04, 2008, 11:40:32 AM
One thing.  This sounds a bit silly to ask, but I have to bring it up...

Do you have the translation chip installed in your MSX?  Without that, all the tablets will come out as gibberish.

I don't think you need it for skeletons, so I doubt that's the problem, but I had to ask to make sure.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: antikris on April 05, 2008, 11:24:43 AM
I had the exact same problem (that's how I got here through Google). I have opened graphics/font.bmp in the La Mulana directory and edited it so the characters are no longer purely white. You could make them a very light shade of gray.

When saved back into the same directory again (make sure it is saved as a BMP file!!), replace the original file with the modified one. Now all should work: you can test it by starting your MSX using F4; you should see text.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: LeftyMagman on April 05, 2008, 12:13:59 PM
How would I do that without filling in every single character individually in MS paint?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: antikris on April 05, 2008, 12:18:44 PM
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7828/fontpi2.png

Download this, open it in paint or any other graphics application and save it as  a bmp image, named font.bmp in the /graphics/ directory of the la mulana folder.

Though the font looks white it is just a very light shade of gray.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: LeftyMagman on April 05, 2008, 02:26:41 PM
Properties says it's a bitmap image, but when I use it to replace the original font file, When La-Mulana starts it Vista says La-Mulana stopped working.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Tequitofoot on April 05, 2008, 04:38:50 PM
I'm also having troubles getting La-Mulana to run, but mine are a bit different. Whenever I run the .exe file, the screen goes black, waits about 15 seconds, and then the music starts playing. I can navigate the menu and play the game, but the screen is blank during all of this.

I'm on Vista too, but running it in XP compatibility or as an administrator doesn't work. Any ideas?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: antikris on April 05, 2008, 04:50:40 PM
Make sure you are not playing fullscreen, but windowed, by hitting alt-enter during the game. This might help.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: antikris on April 05, 2008, 04:52:09 PM
I hope you made a backup of the original file.

You cannot just rename a file extension to .bmp for it to become a bitmap image. A graphics app needs to save it as such. You may also have some issues with administrator rights perhaps.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: LeftyMagman on April 05, 2008, 05:16:01 PM
I really apologize for my complete ineptitude with this stuff. How do I make a backup? and then what?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: antikris on April 05, 2008, 05:17:41 PM
You take the original file and drag it out of the La Mulana directory, so it cannot be replaced. In case something goes wrong, you can drag it back.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: LeftyMagman on April 06, 2008, 12:19:16 PM
Well, I saved the file as a bitmap image into the La-Mulana graphics folder, and it didn't  do anything.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Outlander on April 07, 2008, 09:55:22 AM
I've had a couple of problems with La Mulana recently myself. I've played through much of the game on my home pc and recently i took a break to play some Dwarf Fortress. Problem is now when i try to play La Mulana I don't get ANY music. Odd thing is i still get all the sounds. I even downloaded a fresh copy of the game and tried that out but the same problem. I decided it must be my computer (vista 32 bit) so i uninstalled/reinstalled all my sound drivers. but still no luck.. anyone know whats going on..  could it be a new vista SP2 update or something like that which is keeping me from playing one of my favorate games. (ps i tired it out on my XP Pc and it worked fine!)


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Sume Gai on April 07, 2008, 10:08:35 AM
I have to say these problems sound like they may be emulator compatibility issues

what emulators are you using and have you tried others?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Outlander on April 07, 2008, 10:13:13 AM
La Mulana doesn't run through any emulators. I just play it right through the .exe that I downloaded from AEON GENESIS

http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=lamulana

I've even tried it with and without the english update ,, same problem


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: LeftyMagman on April 07, 2008, 05:07:36 PM
Does anybody know of an easy way to turn the original white font grey? That would solve the problem.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Outlander on April 08, 2008, 08:05:41 AM
Yea go to your LA-MULANA/graphics folder and open font.bmp with paint or another graphic editor. zoom in and fill all the white letters with grey or any other color you want. then save your file again as font.bmp and wala you've changed the font color. the cool thing is you can edit any of the game graphics this way so if you wanted all the hairless blue rats in the game to have pink skin and frekkles you could do that too.

Oh by the way I found out that Vista Service pack 1 wasn't compatable with La-Mulana's midi music on my computer. I had to uninstall the service pack (which took about 2 hours) just to get my sound working again. I'm going to peek around and see if it's somthing else to do with my sound card or uncompatable drivers. If anyone else is haveing problems with La-mulana in Vista then we should look into it.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: antikris on April 08, 2008, 05:30:18 PM
A quick way in Adobe Photoshop:
1. Open font.bmp
2. Convert it to RGB working space, Image > Mode > RGB
3. Right-click the layer in the Layer Palete and pick Duplicate Layer...
4. Hit enter to confirm the dialog that pops up
5. Select the bottom layer now by clicking it
6. Click the foreground color in tool palette and pick a color (preferrably grey)
7. Hit Alt-Backspace to fill the entire bottom layer with that color
8. Set the layer mode of the top layer to Multiply, by using the dropdown menu in the Layer Palette while having the top layer selected; this will save the black pixels of the top layer and make you see right through the white pixels onto the grey bottom layer
9. Convert back to bitmap, Image > Mode > Indexed Colors...
10. It will ask to flatten all layers; click OK
11. It will tell you how many indexed colors it will use. Click OK again
12. Now, save the file as font.bmp in the desired location (File > Save as...)
13. It will ask to save it as an 8-bit image. Click OK



Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: LeftyMagman on April 10, 2008, 05:54:44 PM
Antikris, you are amazing. And the king of all Photoshop.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: KYTE on May 23, 2008, 11:44:37 AM
I have a couple of problems, myself.

When trying to play it on my laptop. It's had a lot of issues, and doesn't recognize it's own graphics card, although I can still play games like Cave Story, Yume Nikki, Noitu Love 2, etc.
When I start up La-Mulana, the screen flicks to black for a few seconds, then goes back to the desktop.
It runs XP, by the way.

I've been able to play it on our other computer (which is quite old, but running XP all the same), but recently, when I press down to talk to people, read signs, activate things, etc. it doesn't do anything. No text, no effect, nothing.

Anyone think they might be able to help me out?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Taco Dan on September 20, 2008, 11:53:46 PM
I'm having the same problem, but I also can't see the colors on my vitality and exp bars, can anyone help with that?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: winwinwe on October 25, 2008, 08:16:02 PM
help winrar says that the patch is corrupted even though I tryed to repair it won't work please respond quick.


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Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: winwinwe on October 31, 2008, 05:23:30 PM
Is it maybe a problem with the xp? If you run another thing other than XP htan maybe it's a problem with the way you launced it in xp-compatibe mode. Also try in the one your computer was made in.
Reply to TacoDan


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Firesealr on January 12, 2009, 06:37:23 PM
Anyone else having trouble getting La Mulana to play in color? Mine is in nothing but grayscale. Anyone have this problem before?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Dtotheon on April 27, 2009, 09:34:20 PM
When I try to Play La-Mulana the screen goes black (I would assume to go to the game) then it just stops running for some reason.  I have tried to play before putting in the patch and after.  I am using XP so I have no idea what would make it do this.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Rocky on August 19, 2009, 01:24:34 PM
I've been able to play the game just fine, but whenever I use the scanner on a skeleton or tablet, I get a few characters spread across the screen in a few colors. There's no problem if I enter a door and talk to someone or shop, but I can't read glyphs or notes or anything.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Rixanu on August 20, 2009, 11:08:37 AM
I've also been having issues lately. I've been running La-Mulana off my flash drive for a few years now with no problems. Now, the graphics are all messed up. There's no text anywhere, the bar on the top of the screen is gone, all the menus are blank, and Lemeza is invisible. I tried a re-install, but to no avail. The only way I can seem to get rid of it is by deleting the lamulana.ini file in the La-Mulana folder, but that only fixes the problem for one play session, then it comes back. Also, this only happens on one computer. The two I usually use both have Windows XP on them. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Nevermind, I think I fixed it.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: Cosine on October 03, 2009, 10:43:48 AM
I've had problems running La-Mulana since upgrading from XP to Windows 7. Everything worked fine in XP but on 7, all of the sprites have gray boxes around them and the background (for example, in a shop) is dark green instead of black. I've managed to fix this temporarily by running in XP mode, but the next time I load the game the problems return. If I alt tab out and back in the colors are even more messed up. I've tried different compatibility versions but nothing has yielded any success so far. Any suggestions?


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: alaras on October 03, 2009, 04:44:26 PM
Shockingly, I've had no trouble with it on Windows Vista...


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: bizzy on April 24, 2011, 09:34:27 AM
I have a similar problem as KYTE from page 2. However, I am using Windows 7 and whenever I try to start La-Mulana the screen is black, stuck on waiting. Changing compatibility mode doesn't help. Although, when I open the game inside Virtual Computer (XP) the screen just goes black and shuts down back to desktop.

I hope somebody has any idea what the problem is, the game looks too fun to pass just because of technical issues.


Title: Re: problems with La-Mulana
Post by: bizzy on April 24, 2011, 01:05:39 PM
Oops, ancient thread...