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Title: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Gideon Zhi on September 11, 2009, 10:04:48 AM
So, since Dynamic Designs posted an update on their Mystic Ark project, I figured I should post an update on mine. As of about 5AM on Thursday, the script has been completely inserted. It´s not entirely stable; I was able to play for about ten minutes last night before encountering a bug on the Bloodhook which wouldn´t let me leave an item shop, but that´s since been fixed. Due to the way the script is stored there are probably a lot of these minor little instabilities, all of which are easily fixed provided they´re found in the first place. A fully proportional font has been implemented, as you can see in the screenshots below; in the event that the text needs to be centered, a command for that has been programmed as well. Further, a linebreak command has been added not only to menus but also to equipment displays, and it works better than I could have hoped. I´m writing this from work so I don´t have a lot of time, but over the next few days (Monday, probably) I´ll be updating the project page with completely new snapshots.

I´m also resolving to work on several games in order, as they´re all fairly close to being done and pretty much require either further editing or minor hacking tasks. After Mystic Ark these are, in order, Holy Umbrella, LUNAR: Walking School, Megami Tensei, and Laplace´s Demon. I may squeeze Hourai High in there somewhere, get the script ready for satsu to do the extra editing he wanted. But that´s what my schedule looks like, at least for now.
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Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Derek on September 11, 2009, 10:17:12 AM
Looks damn awesome, Gid. I'm not even as up on this Mystic Ark stuff as most of the other people here, and I can tell there was some serious work put into it.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Gideon Zhi on September 11, 2009, 11:04:34 AM
Looks damn awesome, Gid. I'm not even as up on this Mystic Ark stuff as most of the other people here, and I can tell there was some serious work put into it.

If only you could see what it looked like under the hood :p It's *nasty* in there.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Dynamo on September 11, 2009, 12:37:01 PM
Good job. Wasn't really expecting news soon. Especially since I know you get bothered about this project a bit.  :)


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic
Post by: alaras on September 11, 2009, 01:50:28 PM
Looking forward to seeing the fruits of your labor, Gid.  If it's still pissing you off, just remember that someday, you'll look back on all of this and laugh, hopefully with a sense of pride.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Drake333 on September 11, 2009, 02:18:31 PM
I am one that has been watching Mystic Ark for a long time. (mainly because 7th Saga was one of my favorite childhood RPG's) I am now torn. I used to feel this title was cursed and would never be finished, as so many groups have tried and then either dropped it or disbanded. However, I also know that Gideon Zhi is awesome and is somehow able to keep making progress regardless of what happens.

For now I am hopeful though, as it looks like it is very close now. Thank you so much to everyone who has worked on the project.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: trugate on September 11, 2009, 03:18:04 PM
Heck.  Yah. 

I've been watching silently ever since it was announced, and have been one of the few 'good' Mystic Ark goons that doesn't bug Gid about it.  To pass the time while checking this site every day (not kidding), I've found Cave Story here, making it easily in my top ten all time favorites.

Mr Zhi, I'm really looking forward to seeing your work on this, and I appreciate you sticking to your guns this whole time.  You and all involved are awwwe-mazing.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Gideon Zhi on September 11, 2009, 08:15:48 PM
For now I am hopeful though, as it looks like it is very close now. Thank you so much to everyone who has worked on the project.

I KNOW I'm going to regret saying this, but you can probably expect Mystic Ark within a month or two. Possibly sooner, depending on how batshit I go over it in the next week or two. I played about 25 minutes of it today (without encountering a crash, whee!) and found a few pointer issues (easy to solve), as well as a few menus in which the dualline command was nonfunctional (also easy to solve.) I've added linebreaks to about 30% of the script, but this is a mindless task that goes quickly when I'm on form. (That 30% took me about three hours, half of which time I was suffering from major dizzy spells.)

Since so much of the game is channeling the oldschool point-and-click/text adventure genre, I'll want to go over some of the writing as well. Nothing like the total overhauls I've been giving Holy Umbrella or LUNAR, as Ian's writing is generally pretty solid, but just some structural stuff. Example:

Pre-edit:
Watching the hands of the clock, your eyes glaze over and things start getting fuzzy....

Post-edit:
As you watch the hands of the clock, your eyes glaze over and things start getting fuzzy....

Simple stuff like that.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Drake333 on September 11, 2009, 09:10:18 PM
I played about 25 minutes of it today (without encountering a crash, whee!) and found a few pointer issues (easy to solve), as well as a few menus in which the dualline command was nonfunctional (also easy to solve.) I've added linebreaks to about 30% of the script, but this is a mindless task that goes quickly when I'm on form. (That 30% took me about three hours, half of which time I was suffering from major dizzy spells.)

Well, if everything remaining is easy then I hope real-life takes it easy on you. Then you will have some time to work on it without being overwhelmed.

As much as I want it to be finished, I wouldn't want anyone to have sacrificed their life for it. (Not that you would, otherwise you would have sacrificed 67 lives now according to the completed project list.)

Also, I'm sure I'll appreciate the script polishing. Make it shine!!


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: juef on September 11, 2009, 10:25:24 PM
Hey Gid! I really don't have anything to say except a big, huge, gigantic thank you. Your work is extremely appreciated - on this game and on all others as well. I really wish I could help, but I don't think I'm skilled enough in this kind of work.

Thanks again for the update and screenshots too! Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna mop my drool off the floor.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: ultpaladin on September 12, 2009, 12:26:11 AM
This is a total shocker, Dynamic Designs just released Mystic Ark translation patch 1.0, that was the secret project 1 they talked about.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Drake333 on September 12, 2009, 03:20:11 AM
This is a total shocker, Dynamic Designs just released Mystic Ark translation patch 1.0, that was the secret project 1 they talked about.

Wow, indeed they did just release it. Craziness.

As I cannot wait, I'll have to play it. This probably means I'll be playing it twice though, as I will want to experience Gideon's translation as I feel I can more easily trust the quality of his translation, having played most of his translations. That is fine though, as I played through 7th Saga many more times than two!

Anyways, going to play it now!! (Despite the fact that I should be going to bed!)

Edit: I just wanted to add this before I started playing as I just got done reading the readme. Wildbill credits Gideon Zhi in the readme:

"Regardless of past situations, I commend Gideon Zhi for sharing some of his Mystic Ark technical knowledge with the members of Dynamic Designs."

"Technical information – Gideon Zhi"


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Derek on September 12, 2009, 07:44:25 AM
This is a total shocker, Dynamic Designs just released Mystic Ark translation patch 1.0, that was the secret project 1 they talked about.

......I just got this sudden feeling like there was some kind of romhacking arms race with this Mystic Ark translation. Anyone else get that impression, or is it just me?


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic
Post by: MatthewCallis on September 12, 2009, 09:37:04 AM
I've must say I really like the font in those screenshots, I'm very excited to play your release.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Demonolith on September 12, 2009, 09:48:34 AM
Although Dynamic Designs may have released it first, I personally am holding off until the Aeon Genesis translation.  I'm not knocking the other version, I'm sure it's nice and all. But to me, an Aeon Genesis translation is the pinnacle of all translations.  I appreciate all the hard work and editing Gideon does to his patches before they are released, and that work really shows when playing the game.

I'm not trying to kiss anyone's ass here or anything, I'm just saying that I'm holding out for the Aeon Genesis version.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic
Post by: alaras on September 12, 2009, 10:53:03 AM
Although Dynamic Designs may have released it first, I personally am holding off until the Aeon Genesis translation.  I'm not knocking the other version, I'm sure it's nice and all. But to me, an Aeon Genesis translation is the pinnacle of all translations.  I appreciate all the hard work and editing Gideon does to his patches before they are released, and that work really shows when playing the game.

I'm not trying to kiss anyone's ass here or anything, I'm just saying that I'm holding out for the Aeon Genesis version.

Have to agree with you there.  I've yet to find someone who makes better patches than Gid.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: GreenEnergy on September 12, 2009, 02:16:35 PM
HEROIC!

Epic!!

GID!!!

In that order! :D

No, seriously! U are a HERO Gid - for all RETROMANIC MANKIND!


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: defect9 on September 13, 2009, 01:00:20 PM
I'm getting the same giddy feeling I did back when Star OCean was about to finall be released by Dejap (i think in 2003).  Gotta love projects like this.  wrought with problems, but worth it all in the end.


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic
Post by: azidahaka on September 14, 2009, 12:21:24 AM
Gid, could you speak some words concerning Romancing Saga 2? the script is in your hands since many months ago, i was wondering if there's some special problems with the insertion or if the games is just in a low release urgency (for saying so).

Sorry to bother you, but i'm really curious, because last time i talked to eien (soon after she delivered to you the translation) i understood from her that it would take a really short time to release the patch.

thanks in advance,

azidahaka


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Mannypooh on September 14, 2009, 06:34:44 AM
i dunno if im delusional, but wasnt there a patch for laplace , even though it was 95% done, it was still workable (i think the ending to the game wasnt done/bug free) i cant find the patch anymore though, so i dont have evidence it was even there at all =/


Title: Re: Progress News ~ Moving Forward (Mystic Ark, etc)
Post by: Gideon Zhi on September 14, 2009, 01:03:56 PM
There used to be a laplace patch, yes, but I stopped distributing it. It was extremely poorly done, and featured major glitching in battle menus and subscreens. The game was playable, yes, but only just.