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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1125 on: April 13, 2008, 12:48:22 AM » by JayBee That's how I roll.
Wait...
Support unit for the SRX... turns into a sword...
My god, man, you've resurrected the R-Sword!

Be VERY careful who you tell about this. 

If Ryusei finds out, you'll never have a moment's peace ever again for the rest of your life.




Anyways, I've got the Hucky 2 crated up and ready to go.
Just gotta get it to the Hagane. And then we will have one less than every Huckebein in existence.

Random mechanic: "Actually, a lot of people have Huckebeins. They started mass-producing them a few months ago. Why does Bullet want the prototype when he's got a final version over there on the Hagane already?"

Your career's been straight UNSpacey, hasn't it? Otherwise you wouldn't ask that question.
The reason Bullet wants this is that the Feddies can't approve a mech for production until they turn it into a steaming pile of zentradi-scale donkey shit. The watered-down pile of parts they mass-produce is a Huckebein in name only.

I will never understand what possesses so many people to build a perfectly good mech, decide to mass-produce it, and then strip out everything that makes it a good mech.
Why even bother spec'ing a prototype if the final version is gonna resemble it in name only?

Gilliam: "Ya know, I asked that a few times myself. Never did get a straight answer. Though he's still right. You don't have the Mk3 R ."

Huh... you're right, Huckebein's come in pairs, don 't they? I'd've figured they gave that one to Bullet... I wonder who it wound up with...
Ah well.



*looks around*
Ah, there's a truck over there. Someone give me a hand with this crane. And don't forget the G-Impact!

...

And we'll just pray Excellen isn't in the hanger when we get there. I'm not really in the mood right now.
On the other hand, I'd like to find out what Kyosuke's driving. I asked if he wanted anything while I was packing the Hucky up, but he said he'd already made arrangements.




(OOC: I'm just gonna assume we're back at the moon and docked. It makes life simpler. If we aren't... this is gonna be one hell of a drive. :P)

APPRIVOISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1126 on: April 13, 2008, 02:43:14 AM » by Ianator is Gaius Baltar.
Wait...
Support unit for the SRX... turns into a sword...
My god, man, you've resurrected the R-Sword!
My thoughts exactly. I think we're gonna have fun with this...

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I will never understand what possesses so many people to build a perfectly good mech, decide to mass-produce it, and then strip out everything that makes it a good mech.
Why even bother spec'ing a prototype if the final version is gonna resemble it in name only?
Actually, I've been looking over the specs of both the prototype and MP Hucky-IIs. They're almost completely identical in base performance, with the only real changes being the MP's Tesla Drive and a change in weaponry. Of course, slight differences can make all the difference, especially for a TK-er like Mr. Luckfield.

Who is Gaius Baltar? HE'S THE FRAKKIN' PRESIDENT!
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1127 on: April 13, 2008, 02:52:07 AM » by Derek The Blue Wings of Kyonoshi
About the only time a mass-produced model recieved any kind of decent attention compared to the prototype version in my most recent knowledge is the Gespenst. Sure, Gespenst Mk II Ms suck compared to most of the other mechs out in the universe today, but you gotta admit that whoever came up with the Jet Magnum was a genius.

Then again, didn't the original Lion test unit suck compared to the mass produced Lions? I mean, more than the Lions themselves sucked. Even Lion Fs have such a higher life expectancy, and that's still not saying much.

dragonmasterjb0: Apparently, in the new series, Lina is arrested at one point on charges of being Lina Inverse.

The rest of the party, in typical Slayers fashion, gives a reaction to the effect of "Sounds reasonable."
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1128 on: April 13, 2008, 05:13:57 AM » by JayBee That's how I roll.
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I will never understand what possesses so many people to build a perfectly good mech, decide to mass-produce it, and then strip out everything that makes it a good mech.
Why even bother spec'ing a prototype if the final version is gonna resemble it in name only?
Actually, I've been looking over the specs of both the prototype and MP Hucky-IIs. They're almost completely identical in base performance, with the only real changes being the MP's Tesla Drive and a change in weaponry. Of course, slight differences can make all the difference, especially for a TK-er like Mr. Luckfield.
*Jaybee stops working for a moment*
I suppose that's true... stripping out the T-Link is the biggest difference.
But really... why add in the T-Link and Gravity Wall for the prototype, then strip them out again later when you mass-produce it? It throws your entire performance profile off, and makes most of your test data meaningless.

Hucky MP just begs the question... why?

*Jaybee resumes work, and starts running a strap through the anchor points on the crates in the truck*
About the only time a mass-produced model recieved any kind of decent attention compared to the prototype version in my most recent knowledge is the Gespenst. Sure, Gespenst Mk II Ms suck compared to most of the other mechs out in the universe today, but you gotta admit that whoever came up with the Jet Magnum was a genius.

Then again, didn't the original Lion test unit suck compared to the mass produced Lions? I mean, more than the Lions themselves sucked. Even Lion Fs have such a higher life expectancy, and that's still not saying much.
The Jet Magnum IS pretty slick.

And don't forget the variable fighters. If there's one thing the UNS does right, it's hardware design. Almost every mass-produced VF has been identical to or better than the prototype.
The Sturmvogel is a notable exception, though it's technically a major upgrade over the prototype in most places, and UNS wrote the Omega One's pilot interface off as a lost cause. I certainly disagree with them, but I can see where they'd come to that conclusion.

There've been a few mobile suits that were improved as they transitioned to mass-production too.
The F-91 sticks out, partially because it's sexy and partially because it wasn't designed as more than a technology testbed originally. The V Gundam got a production run too.
But usually mass-produced MS get gimped. Why you put the good armor on the prototype that's not intended to ever see real combat, and the cheap junk on your mass-produced frontline fighter is beyond me, but it's something that happens a lot to mobile suits.
Hell, the original Gundam was so effective that a child with no piloting experience could defeat operate it effectively. Now, granted he turned out to be an emerging newtype, and an absurdly powerful one at that, but he didn't exactly have a lot going for him on his first mission, if you want to call it that.
You put professional soldiers  in a machine like that, and the possibilities are endless.

*Jaybee yanks a strap down tight, and tests the latching mechanism*
That should do it...


But enough talk about the political vagaries and mental deficiencies of military brass. Santa's got a toy to deliver.
Anyone wanna ride shotgun?

APPRIVOISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1129 on: April 13, 2008, 05:34:25 AM » by Tyria Mad Scientist, Division of Aberration Creation
Hmn...why put good armor on a unit not meant to be seen in battle...simple! They have to impress the high-ups to agree to mas produce their project BEFORE seeing the cost! And nothing better for it than seeing the unit beign hammered down with enogh to destroy any other piece of crap!

The armor reduction comes after they have aproved AND saw the production coasts...
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1130 on: April 13, 2008, 06:40:36 AM » by Ianator is Gaius Baltar.
Hmm... it is true that a single RX-178 cost more than four Pegasus-class carriers and still wound up under-performing. Besides, I'm pretty sure the T-Link System was a personalization for Bullet, though I do wonder about the Gravity-type system aboard the Hucky MkII...

Gah! Shotgun!

Who is Gaius Baltar? HE'S THE FRAKKIN' PRESIDENT!
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1131 on: April 13, 2008, 09:22:37 AM » by Derek The Blue Wings of Kyonoshi
Hmm... it is true that a single RX-178 cost more than four Pegasus-class carriers and still wound up under-performing. Besides, I'm pretty sure the T-Link System was a personalization for Bullet, though I do wonder about the Gravity-type system aboard the Hucky MkII...

Gah! Shotgun!

Rocket launcher!

No, seriously. I'll escort you guys with Alex. 'Scythe seems to draw way too much attention around here, and I don't feel like bantering with Garaz again. Besides, I kinda want to check how much better this boosted rifle is, now that I've thrown money at Astronage and made him upgrade it a bit. Bugs aren't exactly sturdy enough to make for good test targets.

(On a completely OoC note, I bought Apollo Justice yesterday, and OH EEM EFF EFFING GOLLY GEE, the first case was amazing. THE FIRST CASE.)

dragonmasterjb0: Apparently, in the new series, Lina is arrested at one point on charges of being Lina Inverse.

The rest of the party, in typical Slayers fashion, gives a reaction to the effect of "Sounds reasonable."
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1132 on: April 13, 2008, 09:59:17 AM » by Sume Gai AGGF Master
« Last Edit: April 13, 2008, 10:01:37 AM by Sume Gai »
Hmm, I think I'll go out too I have a few things to check over at Mao and I want to see how this 009GS works (especially this four saber bit)

and as to why they gimp MP suits the answer is always $$$$

If you are a man you'll do what's important before you grieve  -Captain Harlock
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1133 on: April 13, 2008, 10:37:02 AM » by Sakura77 Lost Newtype Child
You're right it's the money or the resources available if the armor is made from a rare material.
I think I'll take up Tomo's offer about fighting in the sim so see you guys later.


Things can always get worse...
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1134 on: April 13, 2008, 10:56:17 AM » by Andrew The Dragon Knight
« Last Edit: April 13, 2008, 11:07:37 AM by Andrew »
Wait...
Support unit for the SRX... turns into a sword...
My god, man, you've resurrected the R-Sword!

I don't want to call it the R-Sword, because it's a gear after all. If we give it a name, lets call it the G-Sword.

Which reminds me, I need to make sure the remote system works. I'd rather not get an unpleasent surprise.

My current inventory is: One transforming katana, one flight suit, one Caster, various Caster shells, one gallant (including stock and barrel) and an optimistic attitude.
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1135 on: April 13, 2008, 11:04:25 AM » by Sume Gai AGGF Master
Wait...
Support unit for the SRX... turns into a sword...
My god, man, you've resurrected the R-Sword!

I don't want to call it the R-Sword, because it's a gear after all. If we give it a name, lets call it the G-Sword.

maybe we should see if GGG wants to try it out

If you are a man you'll do what's important before you grieve  -Captain Harlock
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1136 on: April 13, 2008, 11:16:41 AM » by Chaostic Dark, Light, Shadow, Time, Chaos, PIKE
{Sick Bay}

Chaostic: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Medic1: Someone get the Doc!

{one hour later}

Chaostic: Thanks for the pain killers doc.

Uzuki: Take two more before bed and call me in the morning

Chaostic: haha good one doc but atleast now I know what a hangover feels like.

Uzuki: I believe you should thank the young lady, now what did is call herself...Temps Glisse

Chaostic: Temps Glisse... oh! ok doc I'll go find her now, bye!

{else where}

Temps Glisse: Well atleast now I know my way around this ship now.
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1137 on: April 13, 2008, 06:34:36 PM » by Sume Gai AGGF Master
(before leaving Mao)

hey Derek I've got something for you, I think you'll find it an interesting read...

* tosses Derek a data disk before returning to the 009GS for the flight out*

everyone ready? good lets return, standard formation.

If you are a man you'll do what's important before you grieve  -Captain Harlock
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1138 on: April 13, 2008, 07:11:43 PM » by Sakura77 Lost Newtype Child
Well she has definitely gotten better since I left...
*Looks at clock to see that they have been fighting for 7 hours

It's over Tomo, I need to wind down some since I still have my ribs bandaged but, good job.

Tomo: What do you expect from someone who is part of the team that tests all of Mao's new machines. How did you like the Dracodeus?

It's strong and probably could match the GGG and Banpreios but, it's too slow for my tastes.

Things can always get worse...
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  Re: AGGF part 2
« Reply #1139 on: April 13, 2008, 10:13:52 PM » by Derek The Blue Wings of Kyonoshi
« Last Edit: April 13, 2008, 10:40:36 PM by Derek »
Interesting read indeed. Not very often you learn that your government's been trying to keep an eye on you and your family for the last two years. At least I know they've been failing at it.

BW-004, presumed in hiding somewhere on the moon. That's way off.

BW-005, last known as operating somewhere out in the colonies, exact wherabouts unknown. If the fact that Fuyume came here by herself is any indication, that's wrong too.

BW-006, last reported continuing to operate as a mercenary, fulfilling a paid mission to transport supplies of unknown origin from somewhere on Earth to the UCC capital ship Macht, under orders of Commander Maier. Disappeared shortly afterwards, just before the beginning of the DC War. Good. I knew he was smart enough to stay out of major conflicts like that.

BW-007, last wherabouts unknown, presumed as hiding somewhere on Earth. That's possible, but unlikely. She's got more friends up here.

That's the gang, alright. All four of them know better than to let themselves be noticed for too long.

Hmm. BW-003. Continues to operate freelance as the mercenary "Blue Luna", in pursuit of BW-001. Sounds about right.

BW-001. Captain Derek "Blue Wings" Barona. Currently assisting the armed faction AGGF. Hey, we're an armed faction now. We're moving up in the world.

BW-002.....

Well. No need to read that one. I know where he is.

......

......So, hey. Who feels like a few rounds in the sim?

dragonmasterjb0: Apparently, in the new series, Lina is arrested at one point on charges of being Lina Inverse.

The rest of the party, in typical Slayers fashion, gives a reaction to the effect of "Sounds reasonable."
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